translated in pairings like, “one or the other,” or “this or that,” so this passage could read “some as apostles, and others as prophets, and others as evangelists, and others as pastors and teachers,” the last phrase listing a two part gift, “pastors and teachers.” Since Romans 12 and 1 Corinthians 12 list the separate gift of “teacher,” and since 1 Timothy 3 states that overseers must be “able to teach,” then this gift, listed in Ephesians 4, should best be interpreted as meaning that all pastors